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The Tubbynerd: An Open Letter To Facebook about my username theft.

  • Jason Moffatt · 6 months ago
    I suffered the same wrath as Ed and quite a few others. I wrote about it on my blog here... http://www.jasonmoffatt.com/internet-marketing/...

    I too will give Facebook a week or so to get this figured out. What they have done is basically aiding and abetting spammers. It's quite obvious that the guy who has my profile has no business having it.

    For anyone thinking this isn't a big deal and suggesting we just move on, I think you are missing the point entirely. It's shouldn't be about first come first serve with a site as large as Facebook. It severely diminishes their legitimacy and ability to truly serve people in the proper fashion. The last thing Facebook users want to deal with is more spam. Unfortunately, Facebook has opened their own can of worms by allowing this.

    There surely has to be a remedy to this brainless debacle.
  • Mike · 6 months ago
    Knew it was coming. I hope FB can make things right for you Ed, especially considering what is coming up in the challenge.
  • Nickolove Lovemore · 6 months ago
    Hi Ed,

    I do hope you manage to secure your personalised username
    on Facebook as well as Darren Rowse and John Reese.

    You all make invaluable contributions to the Internet community
    and it's not right when individuals seek to capitalise on your
    expert status.
  • David Richardson · 6 months ago
    Good Luck Ed, but i fear they will take a Googlesque stance on this and just say that they cannot interfere with such things.
  • John Salamon · 6 months ago
    Feel sorry for ya mate, that's just not cricket! I know exactly how you feel Ed, being an Internet Marketing Superstar and all round 'Uber Stud' my net tag got hijacked as well. I dunno, the cost of fame and fortune hey. I wonder sometimes if all the fame is worth it!
    Seriously tho, maybe you can gather support and get everyone to spam his/her blog/facebook page etc. There's more than one way to skin a cat!
  • KirstenWinkler · 6 months ago
    So clear that his would happen. I was hoping that my username was unpopular enough and I was lucky. Sure, there could have been another Kirsten Winkler who could have grabbed it but as you said, that would have been "ok".

    It started with fake accounts on Twitter and now it went on on facebook. Will be interesting to see the reaction of facebook this time.
  • jorgeblanco · 6 months ago
    Seems there might be little ground for complaints right off the bat. I hope this person does something stupid like trying to profit from that, then you'll probably have a good chance with impersonation and fraud claims. Copyright violations or hate comments would be ok too. Just let the perp slip on her own mud and reclaim what's rightfully yours :)

    Good luck on this one Ed!
  • SherylLoch · 6 months ago
    I saw that your vanity URL was a fake about 30 minutes after the hour & knew that 'lady' was just a scrapper. What I don't get is that if these people read the FaceBook rules to choosing a name, the username is not transferable so they would not be able to sell them to the rightful owner. If that was their intent.

    You can also Google "Jessica Yuwell" and find her original Facebook page that now has the name Ed Dale. www.facebook.com/people/Jessica-Yuwell/1482490320 , I guess she doesn't have the power to get rid of the Google indexed page. LOL!

    Earlier I saw where Darren did get his real name for his profile but, ChefPatrick took the ProBlogger name and Darren could not get it for his business (or fan) page.

    I'm sure this will all get straightened out.
  • eddale · 6 months ago
    I'm sure they will to.
  • LouisinLondon · 6 months ago
    Hi Ed.
    That sucks. Thought people might have some more respect.

    If youre name is Trademarked you can visit:
    http://www.facebook.com/copyright.php?noncopyri...
    and they will investigate.

    Here's what happened to me this morning:

    Being the eager beaver that I am,I set the alarm for 05:00AM to get a page registered which I only created a few days ago.

    Stumbling block 1
    -----------------------
    Unfortunately Facebook said I was in-eligible due to having less than 1000 fans.
    I have a bit of a problem with this. But fair enough, I should have created the page long a go so it is my own fault.

    So I thought I'd create an account...

    Stumbling Block 2
    ------------------------
    The Facebook said Only accounts created before 9 June 2009 were eligible at this time...

    I actually support this restriction, and I wonder if they only enforced it after getting some complaints (in their first few minutes of allowing usernames?)

    Next Action:
    ----------------
    It seems that Facebook will lift the restriction for user-accounts in the near future but it's unlikely that that the 1000 fan requirement will be lifted.

    If anyone got some nice niche fanpages registered, why not list them so we can all be jealous.

    Good luck getting your username Ed!
  • Elevic Pernis · 6 months ago
    Down with identity thieves.
  • Kat · 6 months ago
    Looks like someone other than Mike snagged Facebook.com/MikeFilsaime too, Ed.

    It's unfortunate these people didn't THINK CLEARLY about what they were doing before they did it.

    When someone is searching for Facebook.com/EdDale and they find a wimpy profile that belongs to a female, it's unlikely they will be endeared to that individual. In fact, it's possible that most people would have a negative reaction to being deceived like that.

    Their choice will be to either click away, or befriend the Name Thief. The only reasons I can think of that they'd request to be added as a friend would be because they found something that attracted them and they want to "pal around" and connect with the poor misguided soul, OR because they want to give them a piece of their mind for stealing and deceptively using a well-known marketer's name (or the name of an actor/celebrity/doctor/preacher/teacher/rocket scientist/etc.).

    And of what benefit would it be for them to let others know what their URL is, when the name is OBVIOUSLY NOT theirs (unless they have a name-change and possible sex-change operation, like Jessica Yuwell).

    The fact that the URL or profile cannot be transferred to anyone else, and apparently cannot be changed, makes what these people did seem even more senseless... and yes, downright stupid!

    Unless, of course, their aim was solely to HARM the person who actually does own the name that they were fortunate enough--or unfortunate enough-- to claim. In which case...

    "Karma is a bitch!"

    Too bad they don't think enough of themselves to use their OWN NAME.

    Hope Facebook makes these wrongs right.

    Will be routing for you, Ed!

    :-)
    Kat
  • John Salamon · 6 months ago
    Quote: Ed Dale
    'Congratulations "Jessica Yuwell" enjoy www.facebook.com/eddale - well until facebook closes your account on Monday :-)'

    Nice one Ed, go for the jugular, No Mercy Man!
  • Chris Brown · 6 months ago
    Maybe I'm missing something but why is this a big deal? If you want a simple link to your Facebook page why not have http://www.tubbynerd.com/facebook redirect for you? Isn't it better to promote your own site, not Facebook anyway?

    When it comes down to it people are not going to try to guess vanity names the are still going to search to find people on Facebook. Plus I would hope your fan page is easy enough to find without a vanity name.

    You are giving too much attention to someone that doesn't deserve it by making a big deal over nothing.
  • eddale · 6 months ago
    Chris,

    It's a principle and it exposes a weekness in the facebook system that
    needs to be fixed.

    Ed
  • Chris Brown · 6 months ago
    Maybe, but you didn't get eddale on Twitter, so why not be consistant and get ed_dale on Facebook?
  • frann · 6 months ago
    It's a shame, for sure. Let's see if the efficiency of Facebook in dealing with this sort of thing matches up to Twitter's. They're after their crown, after all.
  • johnfurst · 6 months ago
    Hi Ed,

    That's certainly annoying and frustrating. The rules are on your side. http://www.facebook.com/terms.php

    4. Registration and Account Security

    Facebook users provide their real names and information, and we need your help to keep it that way. Here are some commitments you make to us relating to registering and maintaining the security of your account:

    1. You will not provide any false personal information on Facebook, or create an account for anyone other than yourself without permission.
    2. You will not use Facebook if you are under 13.
    3. You will not use Facebook if you are located in a country embargoed by the U.S., or are on the U.S. Treasury Department's list of Specially Designated Nationals.
    4. You will not use Facebook if you are a convicted sex offender.
    5. You will keep your contact information accurate and up-to-date.
    6. You will not share your password, let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account.
    7. You will not transfer your account to anyone without first getting our written permission.
    -----
    I love to be far under everybody's radar.
    Yours
    John
  • peter grifin · 6 months ago
    dude, its the internet
    stop bitching, you are not at school
  • eddale · 6 months ago
    No Peter - it's a multi-million dollar business and fortunately the
    law has various remedies to protect that.
  • Sammy · 6 months ago
    Shrug, 1st come, 1st serve means precisely that. Usernames went live at 12:01:00 AM, I grabbed mine at 12:01:05. Unless it's a registered trademark in the U.S., you're S.O.L.
  • eddale · 6 months ago
    I totally agree - and I was there - if it was another Ed Dale - you
    would not have heard a peep out of me - but this account was clearly
    set up to capitalize off my name and that means to use your expression
    they are S.O.L
  • Rebecca · 6 months ago
    That's awful. Facebook should have a "verified identity" option such as Twitter is now doing. I hope Facebook gives you your name back. This person doesn't deserve it.
  • Ryan Thompson · 6 months ago
    Ed, there may be some hope! Everyone has an opportunity to click the "Report This Profile" link and select "Fake Profile". I did this already, and here's (basically) the information I gave them in the report:

    It's pretty obvious that the profile is a fake, as the profile picture is not even human (and sort of looks like something that would be stolen stock photography), and the gender is female, with a name that's very commonly male.

    See http://www.census.gov/genealogy/names/names_fil... -- According to the US Census Bureau, "Ed" isn't even on the list of female first names, meaning it occurs in less than 0.001% of the US female population.

    Lastly, if the Facebook staff have any discretionary power (i.e., they're allowed to use their brain!), it should be pretty obvious that someone may be trying to capitalize on your measurable popularity... so it can't hurt to (gently) play that card as well.

    Good luck!
  • eddale · 6 months ago
    at this point - I'm totally giving facebook the benefit of the doubt
    and I imagine that they have a few of these to sort through.

    The profile is fake and was designed to capitilse of my name.

    I'll give facebook a few days to sort it out.
  • Kevin Kute · 6 months ago
    Hey Ed,

    Am not sure if you had submitting a request to reserve your trademark name before the deadline expired which was a few hours before the registration opened.

    Facebook indicated that you could still still protect your rights on their site using their existing infringement reporting process. If you wish to report that someone’s username infringes your intellectual property rights, you may report them to Facebook through their copyright page at http://bit.ly/mkCBH

    But knowing you, you already have it under control.
  • Groobers · 6 months ago
    Do people swear too much I don't know but please in this instance feel free to swear as much as you like, this is just wrong.
  • Dave · 6 months ago
    As you probably know, Twitter has a verified account icon now. They are doing this for this very problem. See @lancearmstrong a twitter.
  • Nishadha Silva · 6 months ago
    Its bound to happen but I think FB will clean up those spammers pretty soon
  • Isha · 6 months ago
    @LouisinLondon: they will be letting us username our FB fanpages (with under 1000 fans) once the current lot have been dealt with.

    The fake person now has at least 2 Ed Dale accounts, since it's clearly the same person who has eddale & ed.dale (same silly avatar & both in Seattle), so they can also be caught via the "only one account" rule. To those people who are saying effectively "get over it": people who want to follow our Ed need to know that they are following the correct person, particularly with the new preseason & the 30dc coming up.

    Ed, hope this gets put right v soon.
  • Gerard · 6 months ago
    Hey Ed,
    I feel for you man. What she did was just plain wrong! I can't imagine anyone looking for the real Ed Dale landing on her page and being happy about it. If you ever want to leverage the power of your followers just say the word.
  • Mike Steves · 6 months ago
    Wah. I'm sick of all the whining from people that didn't get their name. Boo freaking hoo. Two days ago you didn't have the name, is your life going to be ruined now because someone else got it?

    It's Facebook for God's sake. Get over it.
  • michelletrent · 6 months ago
    Not surprised that someone thought they could snatch your coveted name. Loved your response to Jessica Y. It was so you!
  • Michael hamby · 6 months ago
    Anyword yet Ed on how it is coming along? If alot of people report that accnt this may get settled faster. I dont know just an idea I suppose.
  • Justin Parks · 6 months ago
    Its a pity they didn't just allow a selection of vanity URLs based on the profiles stated name isnt it. eg I could only choose 1 out 10 possible vanity URLS based on my name Justin Parks. Would have saved so much heartache all round and stopped this practice of squatting and spamming or theft.

    @ Mike Steves Its not the fact he missed out, hes clear in saying that if another person of the same name claimed it first then "ho hum, to bad, 2nd best option." Its the way someone has blatantly registered an established name and twisted it with the intention of benefiting from someone elses hard work or identity. Leaves a bad taste and is totally despicable and underhanded.
  • Edward Manning · 6 months ago
    Did I miss something? I went to facebook.com\eddale. I didn't see anyone using that name "with the intention of benefiting from someone else's hard work or identity". They weren't selling anything, there were links to paid products. They weren't claiming to be this "eddale". In fact, the profile was private. They don't seem to be benefiting at all.

    @eddale: Why should Facebook give the url to you. Why not to another real eddale? What if there's 20 eddale's all complaining about how they didn't get their vanity name. Dude - as much as you may want the name, you're not going to get it. It sets too much of a precedant for facebook to be taking vanity urls away from members and giving them to specific people just because "it's my real name". It ain't gonna happen.
  • Edward Manning · 6 months ago
    No edit option :(

    Glaring mistake:
    there were links to paid products
    should be
    there weren't links to paid products
  • eddale · 6 months ago
    Ed

    I would completely understand except for the fact that the profile was
    named "Jessica Yuwell" until I highlighted the fact that they did this
    - "she" then changed the name to Ed Dale after the event - check the
    profile - it still says Ed Dale is a she!!!!!

    It's at best stupid and at worst an attempt to decieve -

    let me repeat if it was a real ed dale - I would have said total fair
    play - but it wasn't and is not

    Ed
  • BrandMom · 6 months ago
    Ed. With you there. Appeal/Arbitration may be a good way to sort this out. Good luck!
  • Helen · 6 months ago
    I wrote Jessica and told her "shame on you" for what you did to such a nice man. Don't worry I didn't go all ballistic the way some anonymous writers do, instead I did a 'gramma scolding'. Ed Dale is probably the most benevolent human on the internet. He gives and gives and seems to truly care about others and their success. He has such a great attitude and wonderful sense a humor. And he's such a sweet daddy to his girls. If I was having a bar-b-que in my back yard I'd definitely throw another shrimp on the barbie for Ed. He was so stoked about that name thing and it just seems cruel that this girl snatched it out from under him. Guess it goes to show even the nicest guy on the planet is not safe from a mean spirited person. God Bless You ED.
  • mylesagnew · 6 months ago
    Hi Ed,
    I like they way you handled yourself. Some other marketers such as Jason Moffatt didn't do as well.

    It's a big debate and it's one that's not going to go away anytime soon.

    If I was you I would personally register ed_dale on facebook as it matches your twitter profile, I know from my experience if your username is the same accross all social media platforms people will find you easier.

    Regards
    Myles Agnew
    http://www.mylesagnew.com/blog
  • Chris Clayton · 6 months ago
    i like how all of the peaple who have stolen these usernames are profiles and not pages!
    if facebook opened it for pages first before profiles then they wouldnt have this issue, brands and companies with over 1000 fans could register their names and secure it so profiles couldnt take them.

    profiles dont need usernames anyways, pages do.
  • Splicer · 6 months ago
    It's been a couple of weeks ... any news on the Facebook username theft^H^H^H^H^Hfiasco?
  • strategic management · 5 months ago
    I am writing a post on this. I read this at two place and it needs some form of strategy towards this scam.
  • Matt Stenning · 5 months ago
    Hey Ed,

    It was something that was always going to happen, in a way it is complement to you and your name/brand. If people are sitting waiting for something like the vanity URL's on facebook to get your name you should be pleased that you have had such a big impact on the IM world.

    Matt